Parents of ”trans” kids. Infertility: Part 10.

This is part 10 of a series on Parents who believe they have a ”transgender” child. The project is funded by, amongst others, Oxford University. Mermaids representatives sit on the steering board. The research is hosted on a website called healthtalk.org. This episode is on parents discussing their child’s fertility. Many of these children have been on puberty blockers followed by cross-sex hormones. They will be sterile. Some of these parents seem to be unaware of this fact.

Here Oonagh says she does think about the long-term impact of the cross-sex hormones her son is taking.

Oonagh thinks her child is too young to know how he will feel in the future. He is too young to appreciate the consequences of the treatment he is going through. She also does not know much about the options for fertility preservation. She seems to be a bit late in the day to be admitting this.

Maybe science will come up with something?

There is ongoing research into preserving fertility for those undergoing fertility destroying treatments. The Human Fertilisation & Embryology Authority even have a page for Trans and non-binary people. They even advise that there is provision for egg/sperm storage to be extended beyond the usual ten years to 55 years for anyone facing premature infertility. Even if you are taking these treatments voluntarily. Link below: 👇

HFEA

Some of the children were not interested in any measures to preserve their fertility and see adoption in their future.

This is an example if the magical thinking of these kids. A male wants to meet a girl who wanted to be a boy so they could have children together. One parent does not remember any conversation about fertility at GIDs.

One parent says his child does not want to think about anything relating to certain parts of their body. Another says their child was too embarassed to be in a room where sperm was discussed. I am going to suggest that these kids are embarking on treatments for which they are not mature enough to give informed consent.

Lesley’s child is being treated for mental health issues, as an in-patient. She disagrees with the decision to take her daughter off testosterone during this stay. CAMHS felt that her daughter was showing doubt about loss of fertility.

Parents feel their children are not being treated as well as cancer patients in this respect. However another parent says his daughter felt concern about fertility was a way to gatekeep access to testosterone.

Ross felt their child complied with the process, to a degree, because they lacked the confidence to refuse. To him, their child was adamant she did not want children.

At last they mention ”safeguards”.

Where are the social workers?

BASWK who regulate social workers are also captured. From their website:

They include ”gender” and ”gender identity” in their list of categories of “oppressed” people.

Here a parent reflects on the future fertility of her child. Her child is on route to ruined fertility and yet this parent wishes to find a route so they can still procreate.

She is reduced to doctor google!

One of the options she is considering is having a baby before embarking on cross-sex hormones.

The local authority, social workers, the foster carer are all going along with this, let that sink in. The capture is across the board.

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Parents of ”trans” kids. Managing Gender Dysphoria. Part 9.

Part 9 of a series looking at a project funded by, amongst others, Oxford University and hosted on the website healthtalk.org. In this episode they look at how the parents ameliorate their child’s struggle with a belief they are ”transgender”.

You can access the website here:

Managing “Gender Dysphoria”

This parent is worried that her child does not have ”Gender Dysphoria” but nevertheless she believes her child is ”trans”. GIDs are counselling her to follow ”watch and wait” , which used to be the standard approach because most children resolve feelings of bodily incongruence after going through a natural puberty. The mum is worried her child is not distressed enough about their body. 😳

Here is a check list of strategies for females which include breast binding, contraceptive pills to prevent menstruation and using a prosthetic penis.

Bear in mind this is a website dedicated to health care. Here are some of the side effects from breast binding:

The site openly promotes double mastectomy for teenage girls.

Georgina’s daughter has been defined as ”transgender” since she was four years old and wondered when she could get her ”boy’s bum”. In fact phalloplasty is not available on the NHS and it is a notoriously difficult surgery with high complications rates and poor results.

Not all the parents are so casual about surgeries and hormones. Some want society to be more accepting of “girls” with deep voices and different types (male) bodies. She is not happy with GIDs exploring whether her son can reconcile to his biological sex. She considers that harmful and thinks GIDs are hamstrung by their ”cisnormative” values.

This parent reflects on the high rates of depression and anxiety in the cohort of trans-identifying children they know. 👇

Apart from the casual acknowledgement of high rates of “depression” in ”trans” teens this parent shares their daughter’s inability to tolerate using the phone because of her female voice and fear of mis-gendering. Never mind testosterone will sort that out. One of the, irreversible, effects for which they are signing their daughter up.

Here Georgina makes it clear she knows how to construct questions to elicit the desired response from her child. The therapist is not asking the right questions. 😳

She has even used checklists so her child can select desired sex characteristics like a pick and mix! Her daughter is clearly giving different answers to a therapist than to her mum. I hope the therapist is picking up on that because the researchers seem oblivious to all the red flags!

Here a mum worries about how her son will be around her biological sister. Will he resent his sister? I am starting to see more siblings appearing to talk about the impact on them. (One girl spoke about feeling like an ”extra” in her ”sister’s” show).

Mermaids is the main point of reference for these parents. Here Lesley is not happy with the mental health services who discouraged her daughter from using a binder; while an in-patient for some sort of mental health issue.

Here the daughter is adamant she is not ”trans” but the mum is pushing the idea of binding.

Again the daughter is not pushing for medical intervention but is nevertheless now on the contraceptive pill.

Here a foster mum laments that a girl in her care has the genes of her mum and larger breasts than her foster parent. She anticipated they will be surgically removed. This mum has been ostracised by other foster parents who worry about the social contagion effects if their children mixing with a ”transgender” child.

Foster kids are at a higher risk of adopting a ”transgender” identity. The Tavistock report a 4.8% of foster kids in their referrals, compared to 0.58% in the wider population. I covered research on this issue in my series on foster kids. This is the one looking at Tavistock’s own research.

Gender Dysphoria: Looked after Children. Part 3. U.K. GIDS

Lesley’s daughter is using binders and packing a prosthetic penis which is of an unrealistic size for a teenage “boy”. Lesley finds that hilarious.

Jan’s son is struggling with male-pattern baldness and was very keen on facial feminisation surgery. The family paid for this privately. Later on we will find out he lost sight in one eye as a consequence. It is not made clear if this was temporary. Note they call it ”gender affirming” surgery.

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Parents of ”trans” kids. Part 8: Cross-Sex Hormones

Parents talk about cross-sex hormones. This is described as ”gender affirming” treatment. Once again puberty blockers are described as a temporary interruption of puberty and it ”is considered reversible”. This is not true. There are known impacts on bone density and IQ levels. So much more is unknown. Even if this claim was not false, 98% progress to cross sex hormones. Administering puberty blockers makes a medically dependent pathway almost inevitable. What is more PBs + CSH will mean these teenagers are sterile. Not infertile. Sterile. We are doing this on the NHS.

These are some of the causative factors of Gender Dysphoria.

Note one of those causes is having a parent with munchausens by proxy. What is striking about these parents is the high percentage of mother’s who believe they have a transgender child.

Some parents feel that the NHS is too conservative in its prescribing policy for people with a transgender identity. In this series some draw an analogy to Hormone Replacement Therapy in women.

In HRT for women the hormones are a ”replacement” for those that are depleted after menopause. Even then women are warned of an elevated risk of breast cancer after one year on HRT.

For males the hormones used are not naturally occurring, at the levels prescribed. They will also have an increased level of ”breast” cancer. Males have also been found to have seven times the risk of developing multiple sclerosis.

Multiple Sclerosis Risk

Here a parent complains about the tightrope they walk in demonstrating the mental health consequences of being denied cross-sex hormones but not presenting as so unstable it raises issues of competence. This mum also complains that her son is expected to present in a stereotypically ”feminine” way to access treatment.

Here a parent is confident that their daughter is ”rock solid” in their wish to access testosterone, he recognises that this is a ”big decision”.

Lisa expresses her concern about her daughter’s fertility. She wants to find a way to preserve her fertility so that she can become pregnant in the future.

She is clearly frustrated at the attempt to extract some assurances from the hospital. Her daughter seems unclear about the link between menstruating and pregnancy. The fact that they are asking whether a pregnant body would make them look “feminine” is illustrative of the magical thinking of these confused kids. She is, however, right that testosterone impacts females much quicker than female hormones do on males.

The prioritisation of aesthetics over reality. 👇

The physical changes cement the seeming permanence of the decision making as beard growth, deepening voice lead to more social affirmation and increased use of male pronouns. The voice changes will be permanent and facial hair can only be dealth with by electrolysis, at this point.

Once again, Oonagh, talks about the impact on fertility as a possibility even though her child has had puberty blockers, followed by cross-sex hormones. This is no longer a ”possibility” but a certainty. All of this calls into question the notion of ”informed consent”.

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Parents of ”trans” kids. Part 6

Reflections on experiences with GP’s.

Here a parent describes her experience with her GP. He immediately referred them to the Gender Identity Service at which point she discovered the lengthy waiting lists. {For the record I think the waiting lists are too long to get help. I just don’t think GIDs provides the right kind of help. Parents would be better provided with therapeutic interventions who do not centre being ”transgender” but offer a holistic approach. We need to explore the root cause of the distress}.

The parent’s reflections on their experiences with their GPs is very similar, in tone, to the parents I covered in series one. Parents have already ”socially transitioned” their children and all have accepted, bar one, that their child is really the opposite “gender”. Having already invested in this narrative it is clearly jarring for a doctor to express any skepticism or, indeed, caution.

Unsurprisingly the parent, above, had done her research and knew their was an option for GPs to prescribe ”bridging” hormones while the child awaits an appointment. For the GP this means there has been no ”specialist” input and some GPs are understandably reluctant to prescribe puberty blockers /cross-sex hormones. The G.M.C allows an exemption for those doctors, which the parent calls a ”get out clause”.

The parents tend to be fully informed of treatment options via parent forums, or, as we saw in earlier posts via, lobby group, Mermaids. This reaction is not untypical. 👇. Disbelief, anger, and letters of complaint follow:

This parent sought another practice that was ”transgender” friendly but hit the same problem and even contacted her M.P. Finally she contacted an on-line supplier.

There is a note of panic in these parents which is to be expected when they have socially transitioned their child and the realities of puberty begin to set in. This 👇 is an account of a young male whose hair was beginning to recede. To her, this makes the situation urgent. Finally she decides to return to the GP and insists on giving her a presentation to ”educate” her, she tells us that she tried to be reasonable in her tone. Really? 👇 I would not want to see what ”unreasonable” looks like.

It did not end there. The mother wrote to advise the practice of all the letters she was sending to complain about their service. She also raised the issue of females getting hormone replacement therapy to add to the perception they were discriminating against “transgender” youth. The surgery finally capitulated, providing an endocrinologist issued the prescription.

Another parent had a much more positive experience, having done prior research with Mermaids. She issued this advice ”do your research and find out if a ”transphobe” is running the surgery”. A father found his surgery very good but was unhappy about the way the forms referenced ”male” and ”female”. He recommends the use of ”Mx” because the health service will know to look out for any unusual symptoms you would not expect. In part this is because the children/youth are registered as the opposite sex. The fact that the medical profession is colluding with this practice astounds me, but they are!

Georgina knew what to do if the GP failed to comply with her demands. 😳

Georgina’s GP was acceptable because she was willing to ”educate herself” and was assumed to ne willing to work with private providers.
Another parent was able to bypass the GP because, unbelievably, the school is allowed to refer the pupil.

Some GPs provided someone to administer the injections and even offered home visits.

Another common complaint is the lack of training on transgender medicine. Mermaids, as ever, are there to offer advice to help resolve any issues with a non-compliant GP.

Parents felt there were a number of barriers to getting the care they demanded. Some they ascribed to prejudice about ”trans” people, some to ignorance or lack of funding. One parent was refused blood tests for her son because he was using hormones from a private provider, she took the fight to social media. Another parent was critical of the GMC guidelines and felt they should be more prescriptive. That is, she believes there should be no clause that allows a GP to decline to practice ”transgender medicine”. I would imagine some doctors simply feel out of their depth but others may decline as a matter of conscience.

Lisa thought her GP was condescending and dismissive

This GP would only refer to mental health services as he felt a specialist should diagnose any issue. He seems to have been quite clued up about the medication and no doubt this informed his reluctance to refer to GIDs. Nevertheless a complaint was made and the referral made.

The parents take any form of safeguarding, as an affront and unnecessarily gatekeeping. Some practices provided three monthly blood tests but others refused because the parents were using private providers. This report, from another parent, explained how she felt the doctor was ridiculing her.

My perception from reading these accounts is that the parents feel they are the experts on their child’s care. They have adopted the medical approach, as advocated by trans lobby groups; most of their research is likely from pro-transgender sources. Because they have ”socially transitioned” their children the onset of puberty is to be feared and blocking it takes on a sense of urgency. I cannot imagine seeing your son express doubts when he has been left with a micro-penis because of puberty blockers. Bear in mind, also, some of these children have been living in ”stealth mode”. From the parent’s perspective they must be allowed to prevent any changes which will betray their sex and prevent ”passing”. The child must ”pass” and nothing must raise the spectre that the parent has made a mistake. Not one parent even raised the issue of detransitioners. The thought would be horrific to contemplate if you had enabled an early medical transition. It is this context which I believe makes these interactions, with GPs, so fraught.

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Parents of ”trans kids”: Puberty Blockers. Part 5

This is part six of a series looking at parents who all, bar one, believe they have a “transgender” child. Details of the funding are in part one. Oxford University is one sponsor. Mermaids are an advisor. Link to the series is here:

Parents of “Trans” kids: Series 2

This research is published on a website called healthtalk.org. You can find the link to this section here: 👇

Parents views on Puberty Blockers

What you will not find on the page about puberty blockers are the detailed, critical comments of one of the parents “Elijah”. This matters because anyone accessing this page will not see a parent detailing why he opposes puberty blockers or cross sex hormones, for under 18’s. I will insert his comments, in full, at the end.

Note that the web-site uses opposite sex pronouns throughout. I will not be doing so.

First up is repetition of the lie that puberty blockers merely ”pause” puberty and are reversible. The NHS, eventually, had to revise their guidance to explain that we are not clear of all the impacts of using puberty blockers. Sex hormones play a crucial role in brain maturation which continues to around the age of 25. Some known impacts, of puberty blockers, are lowering of IQ scores and negative impact on bone density.

It is also worth noting that some leading figures at WPATH have broken ranks, to sound a note of caution, over their use. You can read about this here:

Sloppy Care

Here is a clip from that piece. Taken from an interview with Abigail Shrier, author of Irreversible Damage.

Yes, you read that correctly “permanent sexual dysfunction”

Richard shares his thought processes about blocking puberty for his son.

Here he talks about the importance of timing of the intervention in relation to penis size. This is because the standard method of creating what is called a ”neo-vagina” which requires sufficient ”material” to invert for the surgery. {Anyone familiar with the poster child for puberty blockers, Jazz Jennings, will be familiar with the surgicalcomplications that followed because of his micro penis}. We start puberty blockers as young as age 10 in the U.K. It is estimated a penis reaches adult size between the ages of 18 and 21. The main pre-occupation in starting puberty blockers seems to be aesthetic, for males. For females early interventions seem less desirable, even adopting a ”trans-narrative” stance since they will stunt growth. Given that testosterone packs one hell of a punch on female bodies, even if taken later, it seems counter-intuitive to push early intervention in females, for reasons of ”passing”.

The parents all seem to believe they are simply giving their children time to think without the pressure of pubertal development. Unfortunately many clinicians believe it is the process of puberty that may resolve ”gender identity issues”. Blocking puberty may also be denying these children/teens any chance of a life without medical dependence. Also worth pointing out, to these parents, that at least 98% proceed to take cross sex hormones which suggests they don’t provide space for exploration but commence them on an irreversible trajectory.

One argument put forward for blocking puberty is to stop breast growth and thus avoid an unnecessary double mastectomy. Breast growth typically starts between the ages of 9-11 but it is not unusual for growth to start earlier. Here Georgina makes that argument. It is worth noting that many, maybe most, teenage girls struggle with their developing breasts and feeling “down” is not rare.

Oonagh is the one who introduces the idea to her son, who is pre-pubertal. Leigh is very certain that her son won’t change his mind but again peddles the myth that they merely provide “breathing space”. As I said earlier, at least 98% will progress to cross-sex hormones and will be sterile. Not infertile. Sterile. Children as young as 10 are taking this step, in the U.K, it is even earlier in the United States. Oonagh’s son seems unable to even utter the words ”penis” or ”testicles” using language which suggests a lack of maturity.

Here there is a short section on the consent process. Both parent and child signal their agreement to this process. This child has accessed blockers less than a year since “coming out”. 👇

The parents are, in this way, made complicit with the process. In an earlier piece I covered a Tavistock employee who explained why family involvement was important, from the perspective of the clinic. This is Dr. Aiden Kelly speaking publicly about why they involve parents in decisions about puberty blockers. Its because they don’t ”know” which ones will benefit, with any certainty.

Here Dr Kelly also admits they just do not have the evidence base and points out we don’t have any long term follow up.

You can read my full piece on Dr Kelly here:

Dr Adrian Kelly

Here is Leigh talking about her foster daughter, Now on hormone blockers. She describes the process for accessing them ”surprisingly smooth”. Later we will learn that the Social Worker colluded with this decision.

Ali is not happy at the amount of time it took to get her son on blockers.

Richard had some concerns about puberty blockers and the lack of long term data, his son, however, has now been approved to take them. He hopes the increase in “transgender” children will lead to more research. {Call me old-fashioned but should we not have the research before we massively increase the young people we medicate?}.

Elijah thinks the administration of puberty blockers is based on “bad science”. {Where’s Ben Goldacre when you need him?}?

Conversely, Mel felt the NHS were not ”trans-positive” enough. She feels the psychologists take a too questioning approach. Mel, however, is finding it necessary to develop strategies to cooe with the side-effects of the hormones.

I will leave you with Elijah’s critique of hormone blockers.

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Puberty Blockers

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Parents of “trans” kids. Part 3

Social Transition:

In the introduction we are told ”social transition” can mean a change of name, pronoun, coming out at school and a visit to a GP, to get a referral to a gender clinic. It is important not to assume ”social transition” is harmless. There are a number of consequences to socially presenting as the opposite sex. Let me cover two. Firstly, if you look at the first series I did on parents of “trans kids”, it is clear the vast, vast, majority were also taking medical steps or at least getting on waiting lists. Secondly, concretising an ”identity” at such a young age forecloses options and may help cement something that otherwise would have may been transitory. This same ideology claims to believe in ”gender fluidity” but then treats children as if their “gender identity” is immutable. This is just one of the, many, central contradictions in the ideological framework underpinning transgender ideology.

There are also psychological consequences for the child who is presenting one way but dealing with a body of the opposite sex to the one they are presenting. To get a psychologist’s view on this, I recommend this piece on Transgender Trend website, on the dangers of social transition.

Dangers of social transition

Here is a clip from the article, written by a psychologist.

“Coming out” stories.

This quote from one of the parents in this research project is worth reproducing in full. This is a mum with a plan of action which she is putting into motion immediately. 👇. The mum claims to know nothing about ”transgender”children but she barely takes a breath before she has a plan of action.

She is doing all this before she tells the child’s father! She admits she had done no research and she did not even know if she was doing the right thing. By the very next day the teachers were calling her by a new name and a doctor’s appointment had been made!

The website then provides guidance on changing a legal name and then quotes another parent who has taken this step, against the advice of the Gender Clinic, who counselled caution. 👇

We then hear from a father who has a nineteen year old daughter about to start testosterone. We are told their journey began at age 13. {The website includes an aside her to remind us that “medical transition” does not necessarily follow from “social transition” but, as you will see, it is a rare parent who questions the wisdom of these, irreversible, medical steps.

This parent explains why she dislikes of parental acceptance for her ”transgender” child. On the contrary, it should be described as not rejecting her “daughter”.

She goes on to explain how they had resisted the entreaties of their son, but eventually, capitulated because it was all their son would talk about. At this point they had already spoken to a gender clinic and, it appears they were on the waiting. When they agreed to use a female name and pronouns it brought an end to a very stressful period, punctuated by bouts of crying.

Next we hear from a foster parent who claims she was the one slowing things down.

She claims the process was slow and she always left the door open for a change of heart. At the same time, when she is interviewed, she says she knows in her heart her ”son” won’t go back; ”He would never have fitted. He was never female”.

Next we meet Mel, a step mum, who explains her, and the child’s father, were the last to know about his son. They were concerned there may have been some collusion by the child’s mother and if her mental health issues played a role. The ”transition” also felt very rushed. 👇

Living in stealth.

The word stealth is derived from old English and the word ”steal”: “to carry off clandestinely without right or leave“

The next section covers the issue of lying about your sex. The author’s explain this is a personal choice, people have the right to conceal their sex, this is justified because ”trans” people face rejection and discrimination. It is worth pointing out that this is NOT merely a personal choice, it has societal ramifications. We tend to use the term discrimination only in negative contexts but being discriminating is also ”to choose wisely”. There are also some legitimate areas of discrimination, protected in law, such as the right to exclude males from single sex spaces. What the author’s are ignoring is the impact from the presence of stealth males, in female spaces. This is a violation of the boundaries of women and girls and shows a complete disregard for issues of consent. #MeToo anyone?

Here is Lisa talking about her child’s decision to withhold information from their classmates. None of the parents seem to even consider whether this is ethical. Lisa seems more concerned that she is not able to express her pride in having a ”transgender” kid in public. 👇

Kate says her ”son” will go stealth “if he can get away with it”. Quite apart from the betrayal of trust I cannot imagine the stress on the child, from fear of discovery. I would also point out that a female example provokes a very different reaction to a stealth male. I fear for a stealth female in male spaces. The opposite is true when this is a biological male using female spaces, in stealth mode. The consequences are vastly different when the sex is male and the spaces are female.

Below a parent tells the story of her stealth son; who would not let her tell the truth to his school. Her perspective is entirely from her son’s perspective. She wants him to be out, proud and accepted. No concern for the girls who think they are dealing with another female. The mum is, however, concerned that she may have betrayed her son by, covertly, asking advice from the school. Sounds as if the school tacitly agreed that this fraud could be perpetrated against their female pupils.

The above quote touches on another issue. How many of this generation began by performing their ”gender” in an on-line setting? I have seen more than one detransitioner talk about how cos-play in on-line environments cemented the idea life would be easier as the opposite sex. I covered a paper looking at therapeutic approaches to resolving gender dysphoria and the, female, client was using male avatars in on line interactions. She pointed out how much more respect she garnered as a “man”. One of the strategies deployed, in her therapy, was to find a strong female avatar and role play as her own sex. With that and other therapeutic work she desisted. You can read that case here:

Therapeutic Interventions to resolve Gender Dysphoria

I will finish this section with a quote from the Transgender Trend article, quoted above.

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Parents of “trans kids”: Series 2 Part 2: Coming Out

Now that we have covered the background to the author’s, funders and steering group let us look at what the research says. {Note also that the research adopts opposite sex pronouns and descriptions for all the subjects deemed to be transgender. There will be lots of ”his breasts”.}

If you missed the introductory piece you can find it here:

Parents of “Trans” kids: Series 2

There were twenty families interviewed for the research and they talked about their child ”coming out”, how they reacted and their interactions with CAMHS (Children and adolescent mental health services), GPs, Gender Clinics and schools. For some it seems to have come out of the blue, some expected their child would be gay and others seem to have strongly anticipated their child coming out as ”transgender” and enthusiastically embraced it. Some children /teens seemed to have arrived at the conclusion independently but some parents seem to have determined this pathway themselves. I draw this conclusion because of the very young ages of the children, the family dynamics on display and the ideologically driven phraseology; such as ”assigned at birth”.

The parents report varying displays of distress, in their children, such as this from a seven year old. Again the language seems scripted and the speed with which the mum, in this case, accepts the child’s explanation suggests a degree of collusion.

Many of the children were already experiencing mental health issues and had been referred to CAMHS. Whilst exploring their difficulties the parents are presented with ”Gender Dysphoria” as an explanatory cause, as with Ross, below. 👇

Many children were struggling with bullying, social isolation and not fitting in with their peer groups. The difficulties were projected onto a feeling of not really being a girl/boy; an explanation that may have come as a relief to the child/teenager and the parents. Not only does this provide an explanation it provides a pathway for worried parents to follow. It also focuses attention away from more complex, underlying, causes. Any parent facing this scenario is advised to look at my work on the accounts /research of detransitioners, you will find many commonalities. That alone ought to give you paise for thought.

More than one parent had expected their child would come out as gay. This is unsurprising as young Lesbians and Gay males display behaviour out of the norm, for their sex. Homosexual/bisexual youth are over-represented at Gender Clinics, which should be raising alarm bells.

This parent 👇 always anticipated her child would be transgender. It doesn’t appear to have occurred to her that the same behaviours, she describes, would also apply to a proto-gay kid. The ”Kate” speaking here is a foster parent who also works for the charity Mermaids (Lobby group for ”trans kids).

Here a parent outlines her expectation that her child would come out in primary school but this did not materialise until they hit puberty. This does not surprise me, adolescence is a key time for identity exploration and a turbulent time, especially for girls. It is not clear whether parental expectations could have been transmitted, consciously or otherwise. The child’s experience cannot be divorced from parental views or the societal obsession with all things ”transgender”, over the last decade. There has never been a time before where parents would assume their child might be a potential, transsexual.

Given the statistical likelihood of having two trans-identifying kids in one family I am going to hazard a guess that something else is going on here 👇. Perhaps the “transgender” child is soaking up all the attention? The second child will also have been surrounded by another possible explanation for normal adolescent confusion. Having affirmed one child based on their account it then becomes more difficult to question a second one:

In this account the parent places an undue amount of significance on toy and clothes preferences. What are boy toys? Were we not supposed to have pushed back on this regressive crap? Here the parent claims to have been ”thrilled” to have a girl who played with “boys” stuff. This is, of course, laudable but is a ”trans man” an uber, uber, tomboy and even more of a thrilling prospect?

This mum claims to have been really worried about her child coming out and what that means for the future but immediately seeks answers from google.

Sadly by seeking advice from google this, inevitably, means she will have encountered ”trans affirming” sites since google is a key promoter of gender identity ideology. Google UK even intervened to promote their preferred out come on Gender Recognition Act consultation.

You can read about this here:

Openlynews (Thompson Reuters Foundation)

Worth also pointing out that Thompson Reuters Foundation helped with the production of the Denton’s document. Marginalised minority anyone? {If you don’t know about that document check my blog. I posted on it.}

Many parents spoke of their relief on being told their child was “transgender”. I have some sympathy for that emotion. If your child is having mental health issues it is common to want a ”diagnosis” and a plan of action. Where the child confides in you it can also be flattering and an endorsement of your parenting skills. You may be pleased your child chose you over the other parent, especially if you are estranged.

Here two parents talk about the added difficulties when the child does not reside with both parents. Mel talks about navigating this terrain as a step-parent and Georgina on the angry exchanges she has had with her ex-husband. My default is to empathise with the mum, in most cases, but I make an exception for Georgina, for reasons that will become clear.

Just why Georgina’s ex was the last to know will become clear during this series. Here is a glimpse into how the “transition” of his child was dealt with 👇. As you can see the child is already at the doctors getting a referral to a gender clinic before the dad has even been informed.

Later in this series I will cover the research into parents who disagree. My heart goes out to those parents, especially those who have to watch the harms being done to their children and are powerless to prevent it.

Part two will be on the issue of socially “transitioning” children. This has much wider implications for other parents because some of them are not disclosing the sex of their children to schools.

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Parents of “Trans” kids: Series 2

Part 1. Who funds the research?

This series will look at a project featured on the website healthtalk.org. This project interviewed twenty families who believe they have been sent a ”transgender child” and some of the youth’s who identify as transgender. This series will look at the parents.

You can access the website here: 👇

Parents of “transgender” children.

Health Talks is run by a charity called Dipex.

The Chair of the trustees is a Professor of Medical Education. One of the other trustees is a Professor of Medical Sociology at University College London.

I have looked at the annual report and the accounts of associated companies. .There’s not much to share. They do say they have sister organisations elsewhere in Europe and the United States. I will research further if I track these down.

The research, I am looking at that was funded by the National Institute for Health Research, Nuffield Institute and the University of Oxford.

The people involved in the research project reads like a who’s who of Gender Identity Ideologues. Those of your who are not neophytes will know what to expect when I list the people credited on the website. Listed first is Lui Asquith of Mermaids a charity for ”transgender” children. Representatives of other “transgender” charities also appear. Jay Stewart from Gendered Intelligence, the Reedes from GIRES, a representative of the Proud Trust also appear. No list would be complete without a Stonewall representative and there is also someone from the Tavistock gender Clinic. Ruth Pearce is an academic and former colleague of Sally Hines, who has written a book on ”Trans Health” and is a trans-identified male.

Cal Horton is the researcher who also looked into this area; a non-binary parent with a ”trans child” and someone I covered in my series on the work Cal has published, on the same topic. (Quite possibly based on the same parents). You can read that series here:

Parents of ”trans kids”

Suffice to say, there were no skeptical voices involved in the research project.

As if that wasn’t bad enough they also sought input from one of the most misogynist trans-activists! More to follow when I start to cover the detail. It is worse than I anticipated.

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Bob Withers. Part 5

This section looks at how young people are being misled into becoming lifelong medical patients. In this section the author looks at different scenarios based on fictional cases which, nevertheless, draw on real life cases from his therapeutic experience. I will add in some observations, from my own experience, of parenting a trans-identified son.

In this section we have some reflections on how our children come to share a belief they are born in the wrong body. 👇. These ideas are not emerging in a cultural vacuum. What shocks me, to this day, is the promulgation of this ideology by Childrens BBC. Programmes like ”I am Leo” were marketing this ideology to our kids. The main culprit, in terms of my son, was ChildLine, who are run by the NSPCC. For those who don’t know this is the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children, who are the only children’s charity to have statutory powers to intervene and ”protect” children. The NSPCC is deeply implicated in fostering a bodily disassociation as ”normal” to troubled kids who turned to them for help. {You can find my entire series on the NSPCC from the menu}.

Even purported academic/medical conferences are promoting this ideology and are even funded by the very pharmaceutical companies who stand to profit from our children’s distress. 👇 Big Pharma trumps talking therapies.

Bob then covers some of the common narratives of young girls, identifying as boys, who claimed to have spent time socialising with wolves, but this is not a social contagion, right?

He then covers the case of an autistic female who shed her feelings of “weirdness” when she identified as male. She resisted puberty blockers because of concern about the health risks. Finally she reconciled to her sex, and sexuality:

My son feels ”weird” about being a male, attracted to males, who enjoys female friends, likes to bake and was ostracised and subject to homophobic bullying from a young age. What is happening to him now is Gay Conversion Therapy. 👇. Whether intended or not this is the result of this, deeply homophobic, ideology.

The clinicans who are dosing my son with sterilsing hormomes are criminally culpable and I would like to see trials and imprisonment. Will it happen? I fear not because there are simply too many, high profile, people who have staked their reputations on defending the idea of “transgender kids”.

Next Bob looks at the TV show Butterfly in which Anna Friel plays the mum of a boy, Max, who feels as if he was meant to be a girl. Series advice was taken from the lobby group Mermaids. The Tavistock apparently withdrew their support for the programme.

This was from the trailer:

The programme foregrounds the idea of only two options. Allow Max to be Maxine or have a child suicide on your hands. Later they also dramatise the idea of a child attempting to castrate himself; all promote the necessary application of puberty blockers. The suicide data does not support these claims.


Bob then examines possible pathways for Max/Maxine. One of these is a non-medicalised future:

As in the ITV drama, Max could have a medicalised future as ”Maxine”. What could be the outcome? One outcome is pharmaceutical companies stand to make a lot of money. Once you start a kid on puberty blockers they, almost invariably, proceed to cross-sex hormones. He will be a lifelong customer.He will also be sterile. In the long term he will have a significantly increased risk of suicide. This is the only suicide statistic that trans-activists shy away from referencing.

Bob then looks at some other consequences. There are some knowns some unknowns. I impact on bone density is a known, impact on sexual function / ability to orgasm is a dirty secret which some, post-operative, males have reported.

One of the consequences of puberty blockers is stunted genitalia, for males, which complicates any future surgeries. Even with “successful” surgeries there are issues re ”maintaining“ a ”neo-vagina”.

After a reminder that Mermaids advised the series producer, and some skepticism about the picture painted in ”Butterfly”, we are presented with an alternative scenario where Max/Maxine gets some meaningful, therapeutic intervention. Eventually he discloses some child sexual abuse and his mother’s feelings about his “sexually predatory” father. Max begins to consider whether these things promoted rejection of his sexed body.

Like many detransitioners this costs him dearly in terms of his social networks.

Finally the author draws these conclusions. Affirmation relies on low quality research and the silencing of critical/questioning voices with cries of ”transphobia”.

Withers makes a final point about the societal response to ”Gender Dysphoria” and other mental health issues. Is it our own discomfort which drives us to accept a medical diagnosis and treatment pathway. Have we embarked on a programme of sexual lobotomy? “Surely this must suit us for some reason”

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Bob Withers: Detransition. Part 4

You can read the other pieces in this series below: 👇

Bob Withers: Series.

Detransition

This part of the paper covers the consequences of unthinking affirmation of a gender Identity which is at odds with their biological sex. The mistake we are making is written on the bodies of our young who are taking cross sex hormones and having unnecessary surgical procedures.

Writing in June 2020, Bob notes the increasing phenomenon of detransitioners. These are people who have had some medical intervention to resolve their distress, under the aegis of a transgender identity, only to realise they have made a catastrophic mistake. Gradually we are seeing more public accounts of detransition and some, scholarly, research. At the same time James Caspian has been denied the opportunity to research this phenomenon, at Bath Spa University, due to concerns about ”reputational risk”.

There is a lack of reliable data on rates of regret / detransition. The phrase ”loss to follow up” recurs in many studies which ought not to be a surprise. Why would you return to the clinic who are responsible for your ”transition” ? We have no way of knowing how many of the missing 36%, mentioned below 👇, also regret their medical interventions.

Another feature of this research is the way completed suicides are treated. There were three suicides in a cohort followed up from a Nottingham clinic. They were not counted as detransitioners but their subsequent suicide certainly does not suggest surgery was an unmitigated success.

The use of misleading statistics about suicide, especially in relation to children, is one of the most egregious tactics used by the Transgender Lobby. It is leveraged to encourage parents to accept a “gender identity” and hasten them to affirm /medicalise. Yet the same groups show a marked lack of curiosity about solid data on post transition suicide rates.

Despite the paucity of formal research there is a growing community of detransitioners who are finding each other in on-line forums, conducting their own research and making YouTube content about their regrets.

Detrans Community on Reddit:

Since this paper was written the detrans subreddit has exploded in terms of its numbers as per below. Since June 2020 the reddit detrans forum has increased from 12,000 + to nearly 26,000 as of February 2021.

I have done two substack posts covering comments by posters, on the above forum. Below is the one on males who regret their ”transition”.

Detransitioned males

This is one on detransitioned females. There are commonalities between the two groups but also some sex specific differences in both the reasons for medicalising their distress and their decision to detransition.

Detransitioned females

The above accounts need more formal research so that we don’t continue to harm a new generation.

Dr Az Hakeem: Trans


This piece by Bob Withers also covers the work of Dr Az Hakeem, who conducted therapy for men who regretted their transition. He provides many case studies in the book ”Trans”. There are many reasons this group are marginalised/silenced. Some are related to personal feelings of culpability and foolishness about the, irreversible, medical steps they taken. Backlash from within the trans community is another reason; many are accused of risking other, trans-identified, people’s access to surgeries etc. This can be very powerful deterrent if your community of friends is drawn from within transgender groups. Many detransitioners speak of losing entire friendship groups when they detransitioned, especially if they questioned transgender ideology.

Dr Hakeem had the inspired idea of setting up a group for those with post-operative regret. He writes about how many became fixtures of this group and how it allowed them to recover self esteem. Another practice was to run combined sessions for this group and the pre-surgical group. The second group were looking forward to medical interventions. So what happened when they mixed these two groups? 98% abandoned the idea of medical treatments for their feelings of gender dysphoria

The group who voluntarily referred themselves to Dr Hakeem were a self-selecting group. Its hard to argue they were representative but it is noteworthy that they were prepared to go back to the gender clinic and make their regret clear. It is odd that this didn’t result in more research and better follow up of their post-surgical clients. Even more odd is the fact we have actually lowered the bar to medical intervention, in recent years. Given the explosion of people with a ”transgender” identity and the average time estimated for regret to set in, what kind of situation will we face in a decade?

My fifth piece from this paper will explore how young people came to their belief in a personal identity as ”transgender”.

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